Live ship traffic

Barcelona schedule

Which ships came and went, and which are expected? Live from AIS, the position transmitter on board.

43 arrived · 39 departed · 30 expected · 🗺 Live map

TimeShipEventDestination
CAPE SABLE
Cargo ship · 189 m · IMO 9950131
↗ Departed DOCAU
NEPTUNE AVRA
Cargo ship · 150 m · IMO 8807155
⚓ Arrived Haifa
BUNKER BREEZE
Tanker · 82 m · IMO 9824590
↗ Departed Barcelona
MSC OPERA
Passenger ship · 275 m · IMO 9250464
↗ Departed DORLM
AZAMARA ONWARD
Passenger ship · 181 m · IMO 9187887
⚓ Arrived Valencia
SALIMAR CUATRO
Other · 58 m · IMO 8352007
⚓ Arrived Barcelona
BAHIA CANDELA
Tanker · 93 m · IMO 1056642
⚓ Arrived Barcelona
MSC FEBE
Cargo ship · 400 m · IMO 9839478
⚓ Arrived Barcelona
ALASKA PRIMERO
Other · 58 m
⚓ Arrived PORT GINETA
MSC EURIBIA
Passenger ship · 332 m · IMO 9901544
⚓ Arrived Marseille
GREENOIL
Tanker · 77 m · IMO 9391177
⚓ Arrived Barcelona
FRANCESC I LLUIS
Fishing vessel · 23 m · IMO 8794865
⚓ Arrived —
GREENOIL
Tanker · 77 m · IMO 9391177
↗ Departed Barcelona
TINERFE
Tanker · 144 m · IMO 9498107
⚓ Arrived Motril
A.S. RUBY RED
Tanker · 130 m · IMO 9411563
↗ Departed SETE, FRANCE
ECOCAT TRES
Passenger ship · 15 m
⚓ Arrived —
FRANCESC I LLUIS
Fishing vessel · 23 m · IMO 8794865
↗ Departed —
ECOCAT DOS
Passenger ship · 14 m
⚓ Arrived —
MINERVA KALYMNOS
Tanker · 293 m · IMO 9869942
⚓ Arrived FOR ORDERS
SERVICIOS FLOTANTES
Other · 18 m
⚓ Arrived —
BUNKER BREEZE
Tanker · 82 m · IMO 9824590
⚓ Arrived Barcelona
CRISTINA A
Cargo ship · 184 m · IMO 9337365
↗ Departed Fos-sur-Mer
SERVICIOS FLOTANTES
Other · 18 m
↗ Departed —
ALASKA PRIMERO
Other · 58 m
↗ Departed PORT GINETA
OMNIBUS
Passenger ship · 19 m
⚓ Arrived —
FLY BLUE DOS
Passenger ship · 22 m
⚓ Arrived —
ANTINA G
Passenger ship · 24 m
⚓ Arrived —
BAHIA CANDELA
Tanker · 93 m · IMO 1056642
↗ Departed Barcelona
CHEMICAL TRAVELLER
Tanker · 126 m · IMO 9804851
⚓ Arrived Barcelona
PACIFIC DALIAN
Cargo ship · 129 m · IMO 9339090
⚓ Arrived Fos-sur-Mer
CABRERA DOS
Fishing vessel · 20 m
⚓ Arrived —
OLD WINE
Tanker · 90 m · IMO 8300951
↗ Departed Sagunto
SERVICIOS FLOTANTES
Other · 18 m
⚓ Arrived —
CABRERA DOS
Fishing vessel · 20 m
↗ Departed —
GREENOIL
Tanker · 77 m · IMO 9391177
⚓ Arrived Barcelona
SERVICIOS FLOTANTES
Other · 18 m
↗ Departed —
MARGARITA SALAS
High-speed ferry · 123 m · IMO 9969730
⚓ Arrived Puerto De Alcudia
ECOCAT TRES
Passenger ship · 15 m
↗ Departed —
MIRANDAGREEN
Cargo ship · 155 m · IMO 1043360
↗ Departed Alicante
MARGARITA SALAS
High-speed ferry · 123 m · IMO 9969730
↗ Departed Puerto De Alcudia
BLUE MAGIC CAT
Passenger ship · 13 m
⚓ Arrived —
BLUE MAGIC CAT
Passenger ship · 13 m
↗ Departed —
BAHIA CANDELA
Tanker · 93 m · IMO 1056642
⚓ Arrived Barcelona
TUR TUR
Passenger ship
⚓ Arrived —
TUR TUR
Passenger ship
↗ Departed —
FRANCESC I LLUIS
Fishing vessel · 23 m · IMO 8794865
⚓ Arrived —
FRANCESC I LLUIS
Fishing vessel · 23 m · IMO 8794865
↗ Departed —
PACIFIC ROSE
Tanker · 182 m · IMO 9994553
↗ Departed FOR ORDERS
ALASKA PRIMERO
Other · 58 m
⚓ Arrived PORT GINETA
ALASKA PRIMERO
Other · 58 m
↗ Departed PORT GINETA
CLIO
Passenger ship · 100 m · IMO 9159830
↗ Departed Arbatax
ANTINA G
Passenger ship · 24 m
↗ Departed —
AZAMARA ONWARD
Passenger ship · 181 m · IMO 9187887
↗ Departed Valencia
SALIMAR CUATRO
Other · 58 m · IMO 8352007
↗ Departed Barcelona
EUROPA
Passenger ship · 199 m · IMO 9183855
↗ Departed Valencia
NEPTUNE AVRA
Cargo ship · 150 m · IMO 8807155
↗ Departed Haifa
OMNIBUS
Passenger ship · 19 m
↗ Departed —
ECOCAT TRES
Passenger ship · 15 m
⚓ Arrived —
MSC EURIBIA
Passenger ship · 332 m · IMO 9901544
↗ Departed Marseille
BUNKER BREEZE
Tanker · 82 m · IMO 9824590
↗ Departed Barcelona
FLY BLUE DOS
Passenger ship · 22 m
↗ Departed —
PANDA 005
Cargo ship · 170 m · IMO 9981063
⚓ Arrived Barcelona
ABEL MATUTES
Passenger ship · 190 m · IMO 9441130
⚓ Arrived Puerto De Alcudia
BAHIA CANDELA
Tanker · 93 m · IMO 1056642
↗ Departed Barcelona
ECOCAT DOS
Passenger ship · 14 m
↗ Departed —
CIUDAD DE PALMA
Passenger ship · 189 m · IMO 9349772
⚓ Arrived Barcelona
KERRY
Passenger ship · 186 m · IMO 9243447
⚓ Arrived Barcelona
GRANDE MAROCCO
Cargo ship · 211 m · IMO 9437907
⚓ Arrived Barcelona
DENIA CIUTAT CREATIV
Passenger ship · 148 m · IMO 9019054
⚓ Arrived Barcelona
ECOCAT TRES
Passenger ship · 15 m
↗ Departed —
LIBERTY ACE
Cargo ship · 200 m · IMO 9293650
↗ Departed Koper
CGAS LION
Tanker · 100 m · IMO 9578036
↗ Departed FRLAV
CRUISE BARCELONA
Passenger ship · 254 m · IMO 9351488
⚓ Arrived Civitavecchia
BUNKER BREEZE
Tanker · 82 m · IMO 9824590
⚓ Arrived Barcelona
AS PETRONIA
Cargo ship · 210 m · IMO 9286786
⚓ Arrived Barcelona
PACIFIC ROSE
Tanker · 182 m · IMO 9994553
⚓ Arrived FOR ORDERS
PACIFIC ROSE
Tanker · 182 m · IMO 9994553
↗ Departed FOR ORDERS
EXCELSIOR
Passenger ship · 202 m · IMO 9184419
⚓ Arrived Sète
PACIFIC DALIAN
Cargo ship · 129 m · IMO 9339090
↗ Departed Fos-sur-Mer
BAHIA CANDELA
Tanker · 93 m · IMO 1056642
⚓ Arrived Barcelona
BAHIA CANDELA
Tanker · 93 m · IMO 1056642
↗ Departed Barcelona
PETROBAY
Tanker · 66 m · IMO 9301172
⚓ Arrived Barcelona
Now
SILVER RAY
Passenger ship · 244 m · IMO 9886225
🕒 Expected Barcelona
TENACIA
Passenger ship · 199 m · IMO 9350707
🕒 Expected Barcelona
ECO LIVORNO
Cargo ship · 238 m · IMO 9859557
🕒 Expected Barcelona
ECO SAVONA
Cargo ship · 238 m · IMO 9859569
🕒 Expected Barcelona
COSTA TOSCANA
Passenger ship · 337 m · IMO 9781891
🕒 Expected Barcelona
MSC SINFONIA
Passenger ship · 275 m · IMO 9210153
🕒 Expected Barcelona
MSC SPLENDIDA 📷
Passenger ship · 333 m · IMO 9359806
🕒 Expected Barcelona
EXCELLENT
Passenger ship · 202 m · IMO 9143441
🕒 Expected Barcelona
HARBIYE
Tanker · 183 m · IMO 9396787
🕒 Expected Barcelona
MED PAKIZE
Tanker · 124 m · IMO 9830604
🕒 Expected Barcelona
OLYMPIC FLAME
Tanker · 165 m · IMO 9298375
🕒 Expected Barcelona
RUSTAQ SILVER
Tanker · 183 m · IMO 9718753
🕒 Expected Barcelona
SARMIENTO DE GAMBOA
Other · 71 m · IMO 9335238
🕒 Expected Barcelona
HMM SAGE
Cargo ship · 274 m · IMO 9998509
🕒 Expected Barcelona
VENTO DI LEVANTE
Cargo ship · 172 m · IMO 9683489
🕒 Expected Barcelona
ECO PONENTE
Cargo ship · 148 m · IMO 9985966
🕒 Expected Barcelona
ETRUSCO
Tanker · 114 m · IMO 9327346
🕒 Expected Barcelona
CELEBRITY EQUINOX
Passenger ship · 317 m · IMO 9372456
🕒 Expected Barcelona
NICARAGUA EXPRESS
Cargo ship · 270 m · IMO 9635676
🕒 Expected Barcelona
AMUESA
Cargo ship · 89 m · IMO 9320805
🕒 Expected Barcelona
MILLA THERESA
Tanker · 138 m · IMO 9261516
🕒 Expected Barcelona
MSC JOANNA
Cargo ship · 337 m · IMO 9304435
🕒 Expected Barcelona
ASP LUCY
Tanker · 250 m · IMO 1069338
🕒 Expected Barcelona
SUMIRE LEADER
Cargo ship · 199 m · IMO 9933999
🕒 Expected Barcelona
ELBWINTER
Cargo ship · 151 m · IMO 9398773
🕒 Expected Barcelona
MV SOFULAR 1
Cargo ship · 89 m · IMO 9540601
🕒 Expected Barcelona
XT EXPLORATION
Tanker · 133 m · IMO 1043023
🕒 Expected Barcelona
STARLET
Cargo ship · 75 m · IMO 8401559
🕒 Expected Barcelona
WOLFSBURG
Cargo ship · 199 m · IMO 9941790
🕒 Expected Barcelona
STOLT KASHI
Tanker · 158 m · IMO 9266243
🕒 Expected Barcelona

In port now (140)

ShipStatusDestinationLast seen
MSC FEBE
Cargo ship · 400 m · IMO 9839478
MooredBarcelona 4 min ago
BARCELONA MAERSK
Cargo ship · 350 m · IMO 9984613
MooredGenova 5 min ago
PANDA 008
Cargo ship · 279 m · IMO 9248162
MooredBarcelona 4 min ago
GRANDE MAROCCO
Cargo ship · 211 m · IMO 9437907
MooredBarcelona 5 min ago
MSC ERMINIA III
Cargo ship · 211 m · IMO 9246346
MooredValencia 5 min ago
AS PETRONIA
Cargo ship · 210 m · IMO 9286786
MooredBarcelona 4 min ago
ABEL MATUTES
Passenger ship · 190 m · IMO 9441130
MooredPuerto De Alcudia 4 min ago
KOUROS LEADER
Cargo ship · 190 m · IMO 9478949
MooredBarcelona 5 min ago
CIUDAD DE PALMA
Passenger ship · 189 m · IMO 9349772
StationaryBarcelona 3 min ago
KERRY
Passenger ship · 186 m · IMO 9243447
MooredBarcelona 5 min ago
MAERSK CYPRUS
Tanker · 183 m · IMO 9786217
MooredBarcelona 3 min ago
ASIA INSPIRE
Tanker · 180 m · IMO 9752709
MooredBarcelona 12 min ago
PANDA 005
Cargo ship · 170 m · IMO 9981063
At anchorBarcelona 4 min ago
DENIA CIUTAT CREATIV
Passenger ship · 148 m · IMO 9019054
MooredBarcelona 4 min ago
EVA HANSA
Tanker · 146 m · IMO 9985980
At anchorBarcelona 5 min ago
OPERA
Pleasure craft · 146 m · IMO 1012933
MooredBarcelona 8 min ago
ERIN SCHULTE
Tanker · 145 m · IMO 9439814
MooredBarcelona 5 min ago
TINERFE
Tanker · 144 m · IMO 9498107
MooredMotril 4 min ago
WEC JAN STEEN
Cargo ship · 134 m · IMO 9354416
MooredBarcelona 5 min ago
CHEMICAL TRAVELLER
Tanker · 126 m · IMO 9804851
At anchorBarcelona 4 min ago
TRANS SEA
Tanker · 126 m · IMO 9956927
At anchorBarcelona 4 min ago
MUT OZT
Tanker · 120 m · IMO 9382114
At anchorBarcelona 4 min ago
GREEN PEARL
Tanker · 117 m · IMO 1040679
At anchorBarcelona 5 min ago
RENAISSANCE
Other · 112 m · IMO 9880776
MooredBarcelona 6 min ago
DREAMBOAT
Pleasure craft · 111 m · IMO 9967093
MooredBarcelona 4 min ago
LEVIATHAN
Pleasure craft · 110 m · IMO 9921491
MooredBarcelona 6 min ago
MAYAN QUEEN IV
Pleasure craft · 97 m · IMO 1009479
MooredMB92 7 min ago
DEFY
Pleasure craft · 94 m · IMO 9798246
MooredBarcelona 6 min ago
LADY S
Pleasure craft · 93 m · IMO 1013121
MooredBarcelona 5 min ago
HAUGESUND KNUTSEN
Tanker · 92 m · IMO 9918767
StationaryBarcelona 3 min ago
ECSTASEA
Pleasure craft · 86 m · IMO 1008102
MooredBarcelona 5 min ago
MERIDIAN A
Pleasure craft · 85 m · IMO 1010624
MooredBarcelona 5 min ago
SPABUNKER CINCUENTA
Tanker · 85 m · IMO 9398955
StationaryBarcelona 3 min ago
BUNKER BREEZE
Tanker · 82 m · IMO 9824590
MooredBarcelona 11 min ago
SEA PEARL
Pleasure craft · 82 m · IMO 1011795
MooredBarcelona 3 min ago
SPABUNKER VEINTIDOS
Tanker · 82 m · IMO 9280378
StationaryBurriana 3 min ago
GERMAINE
Pleasure craft · 79 m · IMO 9993602
MooredBarcelona 8 min ago
HAMPSHIRE II
Pleasure craft · 79 m · IMO 1011599
MooredBarcelona 5 min ago
NYMPHEAS
Other · 79 m · IMO 9800350
MooredBarcelona 4 min ago
GREENOIL
Tanker · 77 m · IMO 9391177
MooredBarcelona 8 min ago
SILVER FAST
Pleasure craft · 77 m · IMO 1011989
MooredBarcelona 4 min ago
LES CINQ
Pleasure craft · 76 m · IMO 9964986
MooredBarcelona 5 min ago
ARROW
Pleasure craft · 75 m · IMO 9834583
MooredBarcelona 4 min ago
M'BRACE
Other · 75 m · IMO 9799020
MooredBarcelona 4 min ago
DYTAN
Pleasure craft · 74 m · IMO 9560792
MooredBarcelona 4 min ago
MOGAMBO
Pleasure craft · 74 m · IMO 9560780
MooredBarcelona 5 min ago
UM ALHOUL
Pleasure craft · 72 m · IMO 9698070
MooredBarcelona 5 min ago
JUICE
Pleasure craft · 71 m · IMO 9868857
MooredBarcelona 6 min ago
ALFA
Pleasure craft · 70 m · IMO 9799953
MooredBarcelona 3 min ago
GAJA
Pleasure craft · 70 m · IMO 9798234
MooredBarcelona 4 min ago
DAGON
Other · 68 m · IMO 8833867
MooredBarcelona 6 min ago
PETROBAY
Tanker · 66 m · IMO 9301172
StationaryBarcelona 3 min ago
LASATA
Pleasure craft · 65 m · IMO 9906659
MooredBarcelona 4 min ago
JUBILEE
Pleasure craft · 61 m · IMO 1012567
MooredBarcelona 7 min ago
OMARSUB TRES
Other · 58 m · IMO 9028330
StationaryBarcelona 3 min ago
VOLPINI 2
Pleasure craft · 58 m · IMO 9777668
MooredBarcelona 4 min ago
M/Y SURPINA
Pleasure craft · 56 m · IMO 1012476
MooredBarcelona 4 min ago
SOLACE
Pleasure craft · 56 m · IMO 1008413
MooredBarcelona 5 min ago
BETTER SPACE
Pleasure craft · 55 m · IMO 9882114
MooredUW 3 min ago
KAHALANI
Pleasure craft · 55 m · IMO 1010430
MooredBarcelona 5 min ago
MOSKITO
Pleasure craft · 55 m · IMO 9856749
MooredBarcelona 4 min ago
POWER PLAY
Pleasure craft · 55 m · IMO 9781401
MooredBarcelona 6 min ago
SEA HUNTRESS
Pleasure craft · 55 m · IMO 1005643
MooredBarcelona 5 min ago
VIDA
Pleasure craft · 55 m · IMO 9813711
MooredBarcelona 35 min ago
C
Pleasure craft · 54 m · IMO 9838929
MooredBarcelona 3 min ago
DOUBLEHAVEN
Pleasure craft · 51 m · IMO 1004792
MooredBarcelona 4 min ago
ALISA
Pleasure craft · 50 m · IMO 9946166
MooredBarcelona 6 min ago
ALTAIR
Pleasure craft · 50 m · IMO 9806550
MooredBarcelona 5 min ago
BETTER PLACE
Sailing vessel · 50 m · IMO 9652791
MooredUW 5 min ago
DAYBREAK
Pleasure craft · 50 m · IMO 9957854
MooredBarcelona 3 min ago
OLOKUN
Pleasure craft · 50 m · IMO 9855769
MooredBarcelona 3 min ago
PARILLION
Pleasure craft · 50 m · IMO 9743368
MooredTBC 6 min ago
LADY MAXINE
Pleasure craft · 49 m · IMO 1010210
MooredBarcelona 5 min ago
MY GIRL
Pleasure craft · 49 m · IMO 9685372
MooredBarcelona 4 min ago
LION
Pleasure craft · 48 m · IMO 9873008
MooredBarcelona 5 min ago
SILVER SHALIS
Pleasure craft · 47 m · IMO 1010557
MooredBarcelona 4 min ago
STORMBORN
Pleasure craft · 47 m · IMO 1009572
MooredBarcelona 3 min ago
EXCELLENCE
Pleasure craft · 45 m · IMO 9583031
MooredIbiza 4 min ago
GLADIATOR
Pleasure craft · 45 m · IMO 1010569
MooredBarcelona 4 min ago
MP5
Pleasure craft · 42 m · IMO 1006867
MooredMALLORCA, SPAIN 4 min ago
SOPHIE BLUE
Pleasure craft · 40 m · IMO 8979893
MooredBarcelona 3 min ago
OLIVIUM
Pleasure craft · 38 m
Stationary— 6 min ago
BYZANTIUM
Pleasure craft · 37 m · IMO 8999647
StationaryBarcelona 4 min ago
LOLLIPOP
Pleasure craft · 37 m · IMO 1080588
MooredBarcelona 4 min ago
ASCHANTI IV
Sailing vessel · 35 m
Stationary— 13 min ago
OUT OF THE BLUE
Pleasure craft · 34 m
MooredBarcelona 6 min ago
SOLIS
Pleasure craft · 34 m · IMO 9784922
MooredBarcelona 3 min ago
CALA SEQUER
Tug · 33 m · IMO 9817846
MooredBarcelona 6 min ago
MARAE
Sailing vessel · 33 m · IMO 1008176
MooredBarcelona 6 min ago
SUMAYA
Pleasure craft · 33 m
Stationary— 15 min ago
CALA VERD
Tug · 32 m · IMO 9894222
MooredBarcelona 3 min ago
MINET
Sailing vessel · 30 m · IMO 8662359
MooredBarcelona 4 min ago
SARAH SEA
Pleasure craft · 29 m
Stationary— 7 min ago
ALLIGATOR
Other · 28 m
StationaryBarcelona 3 min ago
AZABRA
Tug · 27 m · IMO 9881328
MooredBarcelona 5 min ago
CARABA
Tug · 27 m · IMO 1020277
StationaryBarcelona 3 min ago
ELISEO VAZQUEZ
Tug · 27 m · IMO 9390771
MooredBarcelona 6 min ago
JAK UNO
Other · 27 m
MooredBarcelona 4 min ago
CALA AGULLA
Tug · 25 m · IMO 1093626
StationaryBarcelona 3 min ago
CALA GAT
Tug · 25 m · IMO 1027031
Stationary— 4 min ago
CALA MESQUIDA
Tug · 25 m · IMO 1027043
Stationary— 4 min ago
SANT PAU
Fishing vessel · 25 m · IMO 2857031
Stationary— 3 min ago
ELLEN2S DREAM
Pleasure craft · 24 m
Stationary— 5 min ago
TRADEMAR
Other · 24 m
MooredBarcelona 6 min ago
SPIRIT OF AURA
Pleasure craft · 23 m
Stationary— 10 min ago
IONOS
Pleasure craft · 21 m
MooredBarcelona 4 min ago
LUNA
Pleasure craft · 21 m
Stationary— 5 min ago
AMOC
Pleasure craft · 20 m
Stationary— 6 min ago
LUNZ AM MEER
Sailing vessel · 20 m
Stationary— 5 min ago
IMPERIA
Pleasure craft · 19 m
Stationary— 31 min ago
JAK DOS
Other · 18 m
StationaryBarcelona 3 min ago
MY MISS Z
Pleasure craft · 18 m
Stationary— 9 min ago
STAR FERRY VII
Sailing vessel · 18 m
Stationary— 4 min ago
FOR-EVER
Sailing vessel · 17 m
Stationary— 5 min ago
S
Sailing vessel · 17 m
Stationary— 6 min ago
ARYA II
Sailing vessel · 16 m
Stationary— 22 min ago
AUSTER
Sailing vessel · 16 m
Stationary— 7 min ago
VIKING NOMAD
Pleasure craft · 16 m
Stationary— 7 min ago
ALMIRANTE CONSULAT
Sailing vessel · 14 m
Stationary— 4 min ago
ANTARES BCN PILOT
Pilot boat · 13 m
StationaryBarcelona 3 min ago
CRAZY GIRL
Sailing vessel · 13 m
Stationary— 4 min ago
EL GAVIA
Sailing vessel · 13 m
Stationary— 6 min ago
SOTLLO
Sailing vessel · 13 m
Stationary— 3 min ago
SPICA BCN PILOT
Pilot boat · 13 m
StationaryBarcelona 4 min ago
SYLDAVIA
Sailing vessel · 13 m
Stationary— 38 min ago
T/T PARILLION
Pleasure craft · 13 m
Stationary— 15 min ago
THE MOB
Pleasure craft · 13 m
Stationary— 3 min ago
ALCYVITA
Sailing vessel · 12 m
Stationary— 10 min ago
OCEANIS
Sailing vessel · 12 m
Stationary— 3 min ago
ORION
Pilot boat · 12 m
Stationary— 3 min ago
EBRO
Pleasure craft · 11 m
Stationary— 6 min ago
HASTA LUEGO
Sailing vessel · 11 m
Stationary— 6 min ago
TEJIDA
Sailing vessel · 11 m
Stationary— 6 min ago
KOMTU DOS
Sailing vessel · 10 m
Stationary— 5 min ago
NEMO NEFES
Sailing vessel · 10 m
Stationary— 7 min ago
DIAMOND SEA II
Sailing vessel · 9 m
Stationary— 8 min ago
BALAHU
Tug · 4 m · IMO 1020265
StationaryBarcelona 4 min ago
AZAD
Pleasure craft
Stationary— 8 min ago
LA OSTIA
Fishing vessel · IMO 8746129
Stationary— 3 min ago
NUEVO MALAGA
Other
Stationary— 4 min ago

Arrivals and departures come from AIS positions around the port. The expected arrival time and destination are entered by the crew and may differ. Times are shown in your own time zone.

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